Comments on: Church-bashing is so much fun! http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/ Latrobe Valley Libertarian Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Paul http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/#comment-267 Paul Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:20:20 +0000 http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/?p=175#comment-267 "straw-man is deliberately misrepresenting an opponents argument"-That is exactly what I said. "one should never judge a world view by its abuses, since there are no world views which have never been used in the name of some deplorable action."-All things being equal, if you really believe this statement, you have to apply it equally to satanism, communism, and fascism. “straw-man is deliberately misrepresenting an opponents argument”-That is exactly what I said.
“one should never judge a world view by its abuses, since there are no world views which have never been used in the name of some deplorable action.”-All things being equal, if you really believe this statement, you have to apply it equally to satanism, communism, and fascism.

]]> By: Paul http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/#comment-266 Paul Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:05:03 +0000 http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/?p=175#comment-266 Woohooo, you are absolutely correct Church Bashing is FUN!!!!!!!!!! There should be more of it and less sitting around congratulating ourselves on our haircuts and our educations. Woohooo, you are absolutely correct Church Bashing is FUN!!!!!!!!!! There should be more of it and less sitting around congratulating ourselves on our haircuts and our educations.

]]> By: tyrellh http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/#comment-265 tyrellh Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:07:59 +0000 http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/?p=175#comment-265 Hmmm, no, straw-man is deliberately misrepresenting an opponents argument, in such a way that it is easier to refute, thus it would seem that you are presenting Christianity (argument X) as a fascist causing 'organism', thus you are misrepresenting what Christianity is about Hmmm, no, straw-man is deliberately misrepresenting an opponents argument, in such a way that it is easier to refute, thus it would seem that you are presenting Christianity (argument X) as a fascist causing ‘organism’, thus you are misrepresenting what Christianity is about

]]> By: Paul M Peterson » Blog Archive » Church Bashing, Latte Sipping and Thou http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/#comment-263 Paul M Peterson » Blog Archive » Church Bashing, Latte Sipping and Thou Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:01:31 +0000 http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/?p=175#comment-263 [...] found an interesting article on Lattenomics tonight. Entitled “church bashing is so much fun”, it is a critique of a post by one [...] [...] found an interesting article on Lattenomics tonight. Entitled “church bashing is so much fun”, it is a critique of a post by one [...]

]]> By: Paul http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/#comment-262 Paul Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:57:43 +0000 http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/?p=175#comment-262 Tyrellh, your use of the term "straw man argument" is innapropriate. A straw man is always erected as a false counterargument. For example, I say "we should legalize marijuana" and then you respond by saying "we cannot legalize all drugs because that would be the end of civilization." A straw man is like arguing near an idea rather than at the idea. I think you guys should learn about Auguste Comte (if you don't already know about him). He created the world's first secular religion. His ideas might provide stimulus toward an interesting discussion of religion, secular government and philosophy. Tyrellh, your use of the term “straw man argument” is innapropriate. A straw man is always erected as a false counterargument. For example, I say “we should legalize marijuana” and then you respond by saying “we cannot legalize all drugs because that would be the end of civilization.” A straw man is like arguing near an idea rather than at the idea.
I think you guys should learn about Auguste Comte (if you don’t already know about him). He created the world’s first secular religion. His ideas might provide stimulus toward an interesting discussion of religion, secular government and philosophy.

]]> By: tyrellh http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/church-bashing-is-so-much-fun/#comment-261 tyrellh Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:01:57 +0000 http://lattenomics.wordpress.com/?p=175#comment-261 Exellently noted. If you think further, childrens and womens right only came into existence in the beginning of this modern era as a result of the influence of Christianity. William Wilberforce (Emancipation Acts) was a reformed serious Christian, moved by his religion to fight in parliment for the freedom of slaves. Dietreich Boenhoeffer (Activist in Nazi Germany) because of his religion worked against the nazi goverment. I could mention many more. To say religion is wrong cause it causes fascisim is a straw-man argument, one should never judge a world view by its abuses, since there are no world views which have never been used in the name of some deplorable action. Interesting, if this was an athiest that you were writing against, I wonder on what grounds he would say that facism is wrong? Exellently noted. If you think further, childrens and womens right only came into existence in the beginning of this modern era as a result of the influence of Christianity. William Wilberforce (Emancipation Acts) was a reformed serious Christian, moved by his religion to fight in parliment for the freedom of slaves. Dietreich Boenhoeffer (Activist in Nazi Germany) because of his religion worked against the nazi goverment. I could mention many more.

To say religion is wrong cause it causes fascisim is a straw-man argument, one should never judge a world view by its abuses, since there are no world views which have never been used in the name of some deplorable action.

Interesting, if this was an athiest that you were writing against, I wonder on what grounds he would say that facism is wrong?

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